im just wondering because it seems like you have no hope.
please set me straight.
real one
I never said I was an Atheist but my understanding is that, in matters pertaining to the existence of a God, Atheists do not believe.
An Agnostic, on the other hand, has not uncovered sufficient evidence to have belief in a God.
Believers claims that they have, or that they don't need evidence to believe, just faith.
So if you are asking Atheists to tell you what they believe in, in matters pertaining to the existence of a God, you might draw a blank.
May your God/s go with you
im just wondering because it seems like you have no hope.
please set me straight.
Isn't this question an oxymoron?
i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.
in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.
(intellignet design).
By contrast, millions of people will testify that God has shown Himself to them.
Tut! Tut!
'No man may see God and yet Live'
religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures.
they have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.. we all know certain 'christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!
couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?
real one
Now I am confused. You have Jesus and The Mighty Jehovah. I am impressed. Two Gods are better than one.
Still - Its not about size, it is a numbers game. Your Gods may be bigger but I have more. It would be ideal if we could get them all in the arena and let them fight it out God to God.
Please keep praying for me to your big God. He may stop me from becoming deluded or mentally ill.
May your Gods go with you
i didn't know we had wing dings.
cool.
this opens untold frontiers.
AK - jeff
For some strange reason your avatar scares me.
It could be a repressed memory or a near death experience that lurks in my subconscious.
i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.
in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.
(intellignet design).
Perry
The last time I saw someone get so badly mauled he had a three hundred pound lion on top of him.
And what is all this nonsense about a spaghetti monster? I have never seen such a thing not in any arena.
Of course God exists. So does a 2000 year old Gladiator - if you want him to - badly enough.
religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures.
they have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.. we all know certain 'christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!
couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?
Yes religion is a sign of mental illness contagious disease. Just look at Islam and the madness that grips its millions of adherents. They all think they have Allah to look forward to. Jehovah’s Witnesses have Jehovah.
Real one, who is anything but, thinks that he/she has Jesus to look forward to. Only Jesus? You are being short changed.
As The Roman Gladiator I have my Roman Gods and Goddesses to look forward to. Here are just few of them.
Ceres - the goddess of farming and the Earth.
Diana (mythology) - the goddess of the moon.
Fortuna - the goddess of luck.
Juno - the queen of the gods.
Jupiter - the king of the gods.
Pluto - god of hell (the underworld).
Venus (mythology) - goddess of love and beauty.
I thank my Gods every day that I live a life free of illusion and have so many Gods to protect me in the arena and receive my soul if they should fail to deliver me from the hands of sinners. I pray for deluded Christians and Muslims
i have been lurking here since last fall.. i had done a 2 year bible study and finally sort of mentally lost it ( study nights, clean house, constant worrying).. i was looking for a reason to quit and told my study teacher ( an elder and wife) that i would not dedicate myself to an organization , so they could forget about me being baptised.
no one speaks to me now even though i was not baptized.
they said i "knew enough".
Tracyeee
Welcome to the board. Be careful though. You get all sorts of bored delusional nutters here. Some dress up as historical charachters and start to believe they are who they pretend to be.
Stick with me and you will be safe. I will keep the lions away!
Morituri te salutant
most of us are familiar with, or at least have heard of, friedrich nietzsche's virulent criticism of christianity: according to nietzsche the belief in, and desire for, "another (higher or future) world" and "eternal life" betrays a hatred of this world and real life, of power and beauty, of the animal and the "body," a "slave morality" which essentially consists in "resentment" against everything real, powerful, beautiful, etc.
christian "spirituality" is shameful "nihilism," nihilism in disguise, the central emblem of which is the cross, understood as the very negation of life, with the "will of power" and the cruel beauty it is made of.
nietzsche lumps together christianity and anarchism as expressions of the same basic rejection of reality.
BurnTheShips
It is not a Jehovah's Witness belief merely.
This is a true statement.
The idea that we will again be joined with our bodies is a Jehovah’s Witness belief.
This is also a true statement.
Words are not an ultimate reality but symbols and as such cannot be understood in isolation.
Religion is much the same. It seeks to define ultimate reality and despite much effort fails to do so adequately. Mind you I fail to see how The Apostle's Creed supports the belief held by Jehovah’s Witnesses.
It was unkind of me to say you had a wooden sword. You had already told me on another thread that you train with train with the short sword and buckler.
See you in the arena.
Narkissos
Thank you for your comments. I would not like to cross swords with you. You would make an awesome gladiator.
most of us are familiar with, or at least have heard of, friedrich nietzsche's virulent criticism of christianity: according to nietzsche the belief in, and desire for, "another (higher or future) world" and "eternal life" betrays a hatred of this world and real life, of power and beauty, of the animal and the "body," a "slave morality" which essentially consists in "resentment" against everything real, powerful, beautiful, etc.
christian "spirituality" is shameful "nihilism," nihilism in disguise, the central emblem of which is the cross, understood as the very negation of life, with the "will of power" and the cruel beauty it is made of.
nietzsche lumps together christianity and anarchism as expressions of the same basic rejection of reality.
Burn The Ships: A rather ridiculous exaggeration. God made the body, it is therefore sacred. We will be joined with our bodies again in the glorious future.
You make three unfounded assumptions in this statement based on you beliefs.
The fact is that the Bible repeatedly praises the notion of surrendering the human body prematurely, in order to get a hold of the real life or gain an incorruptible spiritual body. The idea that we will again be joined with our bodies is a Jehovah’s Witness belief.
I have read a number of your posts and your arguments with other posters and they do not really add up. You rely too much on presenting your assumptions or beliefs as indisputable facts.
You are like a little boy with a wooden sword pretending to be a gladiator.
You are honoured to have received a reply from a real gladiator.
Memento Mori
